Joel is pretty good live though, I will say that, ive seen them once with Being As An Ocean but at the time i wasnt super into them and just knew Pittsburgh and weigh down lol And their live shows arent the best, especially considering they backtrack a lot of what little lead guitar they use (srsly wtffff man) and also just rely sooo much on backtracks. I do obviously realise how ppl call them boring or repetitive as, pretty much all their songs seem to talk about depression, mental health, etc. Idk its hard to point a finger on what it is i love so much about them now, but i think theyre one of my fave bands now. Something about their delivery too, their songs arent super technical or anything, just nice and straightforward with tons of energy emotion in the delivery of the vocals as well. Yeah, i used to not be i to them as well save for a couple songs, recently found myself being really depressed after being really happy for a year+ and upon listening to them again, i found their lyrics really resonated with me in a way not many bands did when it came to those topics.
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